From
the first time I met Karl Watson I knew there was something
special about him. He was one of those people you knew right
away whether you were going to like them or not. Being a part
of the skateboarding scene in San Francisco for the past six
years, Ive had the honor of skating with him on a number
of occasions. If I were to try and explain what it was like
to watch him skate, I would say that if youve seen an
eagle swoop down from the sky and snatch a fish out of the water,
you have an idea of what Im talkin about. Ultimate
grace and effortless precision combine into a vision of someone
floating on a cloud. Hes one of those people who make
some things look so good, so easy. Ive seen Karl grow
as a professional skater, and you could even say Ive documented
his history in skateboarding for a period of time. If I were
to choose my favorite skaters of all time, one would definitely
be Karl Watson, but thats only half the story. If you
ever have the good fortune to meet Karl, youll understand
that not only is he an amazing skater, but he is also an amazing,
talented artist and a father as well. I hope that in some way
this interview helps him to gain some of the recognition he
deserves. His impression on skateboarding will never be forgotten,
and as far as Im concerned his time has come. -Jesse McMillin
Jesse: What year did you start skating?
Karl: Christmas of 87, almost thirteen years ago.
Man, thats a pretty good chunk of time. What got you into
skating?
Well, Id definitely have to say the transportation aspect.
Especially in the city, where having a skateboard is probably
one of the most versatile forms of transportation you can find.
Aint that the truth. Ive always found skateboarding
to be the best way to get around in a city. You can go just
about anywhere and have a lot of fun doing it, and never have
to carry a lock because you carry your wheels with you. Youre
originally from S.F. arent you?
Well, to be more exact Im from Oakland, but yeah Ive
lived in San Francisco all my life.
Who were some of the guys you started skating with?
Well, my real introduction to skating came through a friend
of mine Nick Lockman. About the time I had first started, I
ran into him skating down the street. Its kinda funny
because we had met for the first time about a year before. I
was riding my bike and saw him trying to ollie off this jump
ramp. He kept bailin and every time he would bail I would
start laughin. After a couple of bails, he got pretty
mad and tried to chase me with his board. It ended up that his
dad had to come out and break us up. It was pretty funny. But
anyway, when I met Nick skating down the street I was really
in need of a new stick, and it just so happened that he had
some used ones that he was tryin to sell. He took me up
to his place and hooked me up with a board. After that I never
paid for a board again, I just rode used ones. Whatever I could
get my hands on. Nick Lockman, another friend of ours, Sam Smythe
and I started skating a lot together. Then one day Nick took
me down to Embarcadero, and after that it was all over, skating
just took over.
A
lot of people have said that Embarcadero was almost like the
Mecca of skateboarding. Would you agree?
It was more than that for me, it was a community. All original
city heads. You had to earn your acceptance into that crew,
and the ridicule, everyone had to go through the ridicule.
You got tested and if you could hang you were in.
What was it like skating at Embarcadero? What kind of
things would go down there?
Skating all day and all night long. Sometimes people would
even sleep overnight there, but not me. I think one of the
reasons why I got sponsored skating was because of all the
people around me at that time who were skating so well. I
guess it mustve rubbed off on me. So I guess what Im
trying to say is that if you skate with people who are better
than you, you succeed faster.
So, who was your first sponsor?
I got sponsored by Dogtown and then a few months after that
Dogtown broke into another company called Think. Nick Lockman,
Sam Smythe and I were the first ams on Think. In fact
it was little Nick who came up with the name Think and their
original lightbulb icon. They were going to call it Move at
first, but after Nick gave them the idea for Think they changed
it.
Who were the sponsors that followed Think?
New Deal was first for a couple of months, then I went back
to Think again.
What made you go back?
I missed the Think family I guess. I skated for them for a
while and then I got hooked up on World Industries.
World Industries! Wow, what was it like to skate for World?
It was so much fun! They had this skatepark for us to skate
at, more like a training facility, where you could stay all
night and skate if you wanted to. There was this little room
there with about four bunk beds in it. Chico Brenez, Jeron
Wilson, Richard Mulder, Mike York, Daewon Song, Shamille Randall,
Ben Sanchez, Danielle Costillo and I would sleep over nights
and just shred all night long. They were even payin
us ams a hundred dollars a week.
That sounds nice. It sounds like they took pretty good care
of you guys there.
Oh yeah, at the skatepark there was a closet full of prototype
blank boards, and you could just go and take one whenever
you wanted. Man, that was a fun time in skating: skate all
day long and then come back to log your footage in for the
video. They had this big editing room, you could just go and
put your footage in the computer right there. Every weekend
they would fly me down to LA to film with Socrates. It was
like having your own personal filmer. We were filming for
the Love Child video.
Were you pretty excited about the video coming out?
Very excited. That would have been the second video I was
in.
What
was the first video you were in?
The first video was Think Crime. Man, I was so excited for
the Love Child video to come out. I really worked hard for
that video, I had some of my best stuff in there. When I got
the video in my package, I was so excited I went right over
to my friends house to watch it. We put the video on, and
man we were so stoked! I couldnt wait to see my part.
We watched the whole video waiting, but when it was over my
name and face were nowhere to be found. Not even a trick or
an acknowledgement, nothing! I couldnt believe it, I
felt so ashamed. That really hurt me man.
What do you think happened? What went wrong?
I dont know man, to this day I still dont know.
I guess somebody just didnt like me. Anyway, I kept
on skating for them for a little while, but it wasnt
really going anywhere.
Where did you go from there?
After that I skated for Stereo. I wasnt fully on the
team, but I was gettin flow. Mike York had kinda connected
me, but it didnt really work out for either of us. After
that I skated for this little company called Clean Skateboards.
That was where I first turned pro. I wasnt really ready
to turn pro at that time, but it did really make me have to
push myself to excel. Clean was a lot of fun, and a good learning
experience. It was also the first company that I had the opportunity
to travel with. I traveled to England, Germany, and Norway.
Oslo, Norway. Norway was probably the best. The people were
really nice, the air was fresh and beautiful, it was really
nice.
What happened with Clean? Did you quit or what?
I guess I just needed to move on. After Clean I skated for
this company called Profile. Profile was Spencer Fujimoto,
Henry Sanchez, Stevie Williams, and myself. It was a really
good experience for me because with Profile I really got a
chance to work closely with everyone in the company, from
the owner to the guys doing graphics and other stuff like
that.
So I guess that brings us to Mad Circle, where you and
I really got a chance to know each other.
Yeah, from the first time we met I knew you were cool. Thats
why I asked you to do this interview.
Hey thanks, Karl. I was pretty excited to have the chance
to do this interview as well. Hey whats up with that
photo over there? Is that you and your son Elan?
Yep, thats me and my lovely son Elan and my beautiful
wife, Nicole.
How old is Elan?
Four months, three weeks and six days old. Should I get down
to the minutes and everything? Let me see, six days, twelve
hours and twenty-one minutes.
Whaaat!!
I cant believe youre so exact! Precision definitely
seems to be one of your strengths. Not only in your skating
and your art, but in the rest of your life as well. Thats
awesome. You, your woman and your son, a tight little family.
Whats it like being a father?
Its the best experience you can possibly go through.
I wish more people would realize that and stop abusing their
procreation abilities.
I know what you mean, having a kid is definitely an amazing
experience. Whats your favorite thing to do with Elan?
My favorite thing to do with Elan also involves his mother,
because hes always so happy when shes around.
I love just waking up in the morning with him. Every day he
wakes up first with his cute little noises. Me, Im always
second to wake up because Nicole is such a heavy sleeper.
Then Nicole wakes up, and man, when he sees her its
all over. He starts wigglin and squirmin like
a little worm. Gosh, I love my little family, its probably
the best thing thats happened to me.
Thats really beautiful. A strong, young father taking
care of his family. So getting back to your skating, who are
a few of your favorite skaters?
Well, personally I think anyone who can ollie is pretty good,
because its pretty amazing what it takes to make a skateboard
do some of the tricks people are doing these days. But if
I had to choose a few of my favorites they would have to be
Bryan Anderson, Ray Barbie, and Rodney Mullen... and hundreds
more that would take way too long to write.
So the new news is that you are riding for Expedition,
is that right?
Yeah, Ive recently been accepted to a team of rippers
who know how to push skating to the limit. I think Expedition
has one of the strongest teams out there right now, and Im
really proud to be a part of it.
Who are some of your other sponsors?
Thunder Trucks, I-Path Shoes, Individual Clothing, S-One Insoles,
and FTC. And then theres Satori Wheels.
Satori?...Thats a pretty interesting name, what
does it mean?
Well, I guess the best way for me to explain the meaning of
Satori to you would be to give you this quote
from the book Way of the Peaceful Warrior by Dan Millman:
Now let me tell you about Satori, a Zen concept. Satori
is the warrior state of being; it occurs at the moment when
the mind is free of thought, pure awareness; the body is active,
sensitive, relaxed, and the emotions are open and free. That
is the experience of Satori.
Wow, I really like that. Ive always thought skating
had a very Zen feel to it. Well, I guess that just about wraps
up this interview. You know what time it is now dont
you?
Shout out time, huh?
Yep.
Id like to give a big What up to Nicole and Elan, and
I want to say I love you to my momma, and peace to all the
rest of the beautiful beings out there.